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New Hampshire Bill Introduced to Re-Instate ORIGINAL 13th Amendment
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Hmmm. According to
VOTED FOR
Maryland (December 25, 1810)
Kentucky (January 31, 1811)
Ohio (January 31, 1811)
Delaware (February 2, 1811)
Pennsylvania (February 6, 1811)
New Jersey (February 13, 1811)
Vermont (October 24, 1811)
Tennessee (November 21, 1811)
North Carolina (December 23, 1811)
Georgia (December 31, 1811)[1]
Massachusetts (February 27, 1812)
New Hampshire (December 9, 1812)
VOTED AGAINST
New York (March 12, 1812)
Connecticut (May 13, 1813)
Rhode Island (September 15, 1814)
TO PASS IT WOULD REQUIRE 26 VOTES FROM THESE 36 STATES:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Florida
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Maine
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Mexico
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
South Carolina
South Dakota
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming
*Note - Titles and honorariums would include all those holding the honorarium ''Esquire'' (lawyer).
Imagine Congress without any lawyers!
I don't get why this is a big
I don't get why this is a big deal, would this even affect any of our politicians? I don't know of any US citizens with titles of nobility, though I don't pay much attention to that stuff. I doubt the court shares Drake's theory that being a lawyer counts as a "title of nobility". All that stuff is based upon illusions anyway, and the judges are always going to support that which keeps the current societal systems going. That's part of common law.
Also, this hasn't been ratified by a single state yet, much less the 3/4ths needed to become part of the US Constitution.
Thirteen states ratified the
Thirteen states ratified the Amendment in 1810 and 1812, and three states refused to adopt it during that same time period. The historical claim as to why the Amendment wasn't approved (yet), is that when Louisiana came into the union on April 30, 1812 the Amendment needed 14 states instead of 13 for the 3/4ths requirement to be met.
As it stands NOW, the Amendment's passage by Congress provided no time limit for ratification (Coleman v. Miller), and there are 36 states that never approved nor denied the Amendment. Therefore just 26 of those 36 states are needed to ratify it. This is why it is important --- because it'd be worth it just for the entertainment value of watching all those lawyers trying to keep from being kicked out of Congress!
As to your other point, lawyers are called ''Esquires.'' This is an ancient reference to the Middle Age honorarium for those who assisted a Knight in his chivalric duties (a squire). Today this honorarium is granted by the state Bar Associations who also control testing to become a lawyer, ethical judgements of a lawyer's acts, and of course membership. The Amendment does in fact mention such ''titles and honors'' as being prohibitive in order to maintain citizenship. It further prohibited those with such titles from exercising their citizenship rights to hold office (see Section V of NH HB638).
Likewise, Members of the Bar operate under the auspices of Admiralty Law (The Law of the Sea), which was imposed on the colonists by the East India Company (and others) since they were just private companies with Royal Charters with the rights to exploit this New World of treasures they'd found -- for a Monarchy Fee. According to Wiki in the honorable and noble stations, a Knight was above an Esquire but an Esquire was always above a Gentleman.
Thank you for a much better
Thank you for a much better explanation! I missed section V on the first read through, getting lawyers out of politics would be great, though the businessmen are often just as bad.